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Learn mandarin - Museum of Slave Society of Yi Nationality in Liangshan

2009-01-31T02:43:00.001-08:00

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Museum of Slave Society of Yi Nationality in Liangshan

The Museum of Slave Society of Yi Nationality in Liangshan lies in the middle of Lushan scenic spot in Xichang City of Sichuang Province. It was opened to the public in August 1985.

The museum is a classical Yi nationality architecture. The main building was in three traditional colors of red, yellow and black, painted with pictures of sun, moon, mountains, rivers, sheep and other motifs from nature.

The museum has a construction area of 5,000 square meters, with about 1,000 square meters for exhibition, which is divided into nine show halls: Social Productivity, Social Classes, Family Custom, Religion, Marriage and Family, Literature and Art, Folklores, Struggle between Slaves and Slave
System, and Handwriting of National Leaders and Foreign Guests. Among the cultural relics on display, relics of Yi nationality total 4,196 items, including gold, jade, bronze, iron, bamboo, bone, and silk, etc.

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Chinese Mandarin - Qu Yuan Memorial in Zigui

2009-01-24T16:01:00.001-08:00

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Qu Yuan Memorial in Zigui

Located in Zigui County in Hubei Province, the Qu Yuan Memorial in Zigui is a memorial of Chinese historical figures. It was opened to the public in 1981.

There are two floors of exhibition halls -- the second floor displays more than 800 unearthed relics in the county, such as ancient daggers, spears and swords, the most precious of which is the sword of the Yue King Goujian of the Warring States Period (475-221BC); the first floor showcases
cultural relics related to Qu Yuan, including the precious poetryChu Ci(literally, poetry of the Chu Kingdom), 500 sets of books collected by Qu Yuan, and over 300 calligraphic works and paintings of various dynasties collected by him.

The memorial also houses the stone sculpture and bronze sculpture of Qu Yuan, the Jusong Pavilion (the pavilion used to praise tangerines), and the stele corridor. The stone sculpture of 103 centimeters tall was made in the 16thyear (1573) during the Jiajing reign of the Ming Dynasty (1644-1911)
with the money donated by the common people in Guizhou, and is the earliest extant stone sculpture of Qu Yuan in China. The bronze sculpture stands in the center of the memorial, its pedestal made of granites is 2.5 meters high and the body is 3.92 meters tall. In the tangerine grove 50 meters
away from the Qu Yuan Tomb, there are 60 steles carved with 25 pieces of Qu Yuan's poetryLi Sao(Sorrow after Departure).

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Learning Chinese - Tianjin Museum

2009-01-14T12:50:00.001-08:00

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Tianjin Museum

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TheTianjinMuseum, located at the southern side of the scheduled Tianjin Municipal Administrative andCulturalCenterat Hexi District, covers an area of 5.02 hectares with the total building space of 31,400 square meters. The Museum, a shell structure, is designed in the shape of a giant swan. In
front of the Museum is a 10,000 square meters wideSwanLakeand before theLakeis a large green patch with the space of 240,000 square meters. The Museum, expected to be completed in October this year, is to be built into a large modern spot for the collection, protection and research of historic
relics as well as a place for education, leisure and touring.

When completed, theTianjinMuseum, a combination of theTianjinArt MuseumandHistoricalMuseum, will contain all the 150,000 pieces of valuable historical and cultural relics of the two museums, and aperiodic exhibitions will be held by turns.

The building of theTianjinMuseumis a product of the cooperation betweenChinaandJapan. From the designing schemes put forward by twelve designing institutes, both domestic and foreign, the related specialists have finally chosen the scheme put forward by a Japanese designing office and the Swan
comes out of its egg. In the concept of the world famous Japanese architectural master, the design of shell structure gives one a sensuous pleasure by combining the manmade lake with the entrance corridor, just like a swan with its wings spread out. In addition, the appearance of the building
gives one the feeling of a theater. It offers an epoch-making beautiful scenery that can be compared favorably with the Sydney Opera House.

TheTianjinMuseumis a three-storeyed building. From the hall on the ground floor, you can get to the top floor, the Historical Exhibition Hall, directly by the staircase. You can not only enjoy the rare historical collections but also enjoy the sunshine coming from the feather-shaped skylight in
the dome. Then you can get down by the stairway to the second floor, where there are exhibition halls of historical and cultural relics as well as folk custom exhibits, showing mainly the rare collections of the historical museum and the art museum. In accordance with the duration of the
exhibition, the exhibition halls can be divided into two kinds. The first kind is arrayed for basic display with the exhibits kept relatively stable while the exhibits of the second kind can be readjusted and changed as needed. The two exhibition halls are relatively independent with their
respective special accesses and passageways. Finally, you can return to the ground floor, which has a space of 10,000 square meters used for warehouse to store exhibits, offices and reading room. You can take a short rest and have a cup of coffee here in the lounge, which offers a unique visual
field for enjoying the surrounding sceneries of the Museum.

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Chinese Mandarin - Jue Se and Jiao Se

2009-01-13T13:20:00.001-08:00

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Jue Se and Jiao Se

In Chinese opera,Jue SeandJiao Sehave quite different meanings.

Jue Serefers to which figure in the play the actor represents.Jiao Se, orHangdan,is basically classified asSheng, Dan,Jing,MoandChou.

According to the age and social status of the characters,Shengfalls into three sub-groups:Laosheng, XiaoshengandWusheng;theDanroles are subdivided intoZhengdan(orQingyi), Huadan, Wudan, Laodan, Caidan, Daomadan, and Guimendan;theJingroles, Dahualian, Erhualian, Wuer
HualianandYouhualian;theChouroles, WenchouandWuchou.

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Chinese Pinyin - Chinese Folk Literature and Art Association

2009-01-12T12:38:00.001-08:00

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Chinese Folk Literature and Art Association

Address: No.10, Nanli, Nongzhanguan (Agricultural Exhibition Hall), Beijing

Post Code: 100026

Tel: (86-10) 65004622

The Chinese Folk Literature and Art Association was established in March of 1950. It now has nearly 4,000 members. Its subordinated organs include the Chinese Story Society, Chinese Fairy Tales Society, Chinese Ballad Society, Chinese Proverb Society, Chinese Folk Art Society and the Chinese
Paper-Cutting Society. It publishes the magazinesFolk Literature(monthly),Opinions on Folk Literature(bimonthly) andFolk Customs(monthly).

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Study Chinese - Chinese Manglietiastrum

2009-01-11T18:11:00.001-08:00

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Chinese Manglietiastrum

It belongs to the Magnoliaceae Family, with the Latin name ofManglietiastrum sinicum.

The evergreen mega-arbor can attain the height up to 40 meters with the chest diameter of 1.2 meters. It has a gray bark. The annual shoot is green. The large keratinous leaves are elliptic or obovoid, and usually 15 to 26 centimeters long, or even 30 centimeters. The aromatic flower bears 9 to 11
fleshy tepals, 3 elliptic felly, which is deep red outside and white inside, and 2 white inside rings. The obovoid or oval fruits, bearing sparse lenticels, are usually 5 to 8.5 centimeters in length, with a diameter of 3.5 to 6.5 centimeters. It contains 1 to 3 seeds inside, wrapped in red outer
coat.

It's native to broad-leaved evergreen forests in South Asia tropic monsoon area, in ravines facing the sunlight on the upper part of the hillside 1,300-1,550 meters above sea level. The mountain yellow earth or yellow brown earth there is developed from sandstone and sand shale which have a pH
value of 4.8 to 5.7 and contain 20% or more organic matter. Chinese Manglietiastrum haswide crowns above the level of the forest canopy, with developed root system. It blossoms once every 1 to 2 years with a florescence in the last ten days of April. It doesn't bear many flowering branches and the
fruit-bearing rate is low. It bears fruits from September to November.

Chinese Manglietiastrum is an endemic species of China, with a fairly small distribution area -- only found in southeast of Yunnan Province where there are only 7 individuals. It's of academic value for the study on the classification system and the palaeo-flora of the Magnolia Family. It has a
straight trunk and is rot-proof and bug-proof, with silk-like luster. Therefore, it's a precious timber tree in south of Yunan Province. Bearing fresh and aromatic flowers, it can be used for ornamental purposes.

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Learn mandarin - Shanxi Chengni Inkstone

2009-01-10T13:10:00.001-08:00

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Shanxi Chengni Inkstone

Chengni inkstone, one of the four most important inkstones in China (the other three are She, Duan and Tao inkstones), is produced in Xinjiang County of Shanxi Province in northern China. It is definitely an item not to be neglected. It differs from most of its brethren because of the way of
making it. Instead of using a big chunk of hard rock, the stone is made from the soft soil from the bed of a local river.

Chengni inkstone originated in the Tang Dynasty (618-907) and was then a precious article of tribute. Unfortunately by the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911), the craft of kilning the once famous Chengni inkstone had already lost its heritage due to various reasons. It regained its past prosperity after
unremitting effort by craftsmen in recent years.

The very fine mud under the bed of the Fenhe River is filtered, mixed with bounding material, dried and carved into inkstone, then fired in the kiln. Because of the different minerals in the mud and also the different temperature of the firing, final products have different colors. The process has
nine steps: mud choosing, filtrating, depositing, molding, baking, carving, firing, waxing and polishing. Chengni inkstone has the following characteristics: easy to generate ink, no harm done to the brush, and portable.

In terms of artistic design, Chengni inkstone, now with about a hundred designs, stresses on patterns and shapes, with elegant and simple but beautiful colors.

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Chinese Tutor - Beijing Roasted Duck

2009-01-09T18:54:00.001-08:00

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Beijing Roasted Duck

Beijing Roasted Duck has the reputation of being the most delicious food in Beijing. It is usually a fixed item of dinner on any Beijing tour itinerary. Eating Beijing Roasted Duck is also one of the two things you are absolutely supposed to do while in Beijing -- the other one is climbing the
Great Wall.

The hometown of roasted duck is actually Nanjing City of Jiangsu Province in East China. In the 19thyear (1421) during the Yongle reign of the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), the emperor moved the capital from Nanjing to Beijing, and hence roasted duck was introduced to Beijing and became an imperial
dish.

Beijing ducks are called force-fed ducks, which are raised for the sole purpose of making the food. Force-fed, they are kept in cages which restrain them from moving about, so as to fatten them up and make the meat comparably tender.

Beijing Roasted Duck has two kinds: Menlu Roasted Duck (duck roasted in the oven) and Gualu Roasted Duck (duck roasted over the fire). The preparations include: first rubbing the ducks with spices, salt and sugar, and then hanging them in the air for some time. To make a Menlu Roasted Duck, first
burn the Kaoliang stalks in the oven till the sides of the oven turn hot, then put the ready-duck inside until the duck is baked date-red and shining with oil by the heat of the oven and the remaining heat of the ash. To make a Gualu Roasted Duck, the ready-duck is baked in the oven directly over
the burning wood of peach, jujube or date trees, which gives off a special fragrance, with very little smoke; bake until the duck becomes brown with rich grease perspiring outside and have a nice odor. The best roasted duck has a crisp skin and tender meat.

Beijing Roasted Duck is always served in well-cut slices. The chef cuts the meat into thin slices, each having a piece of skin and perfect with the complete layers of the meat. Then the meat is served with very thin pancakes, Chinese onions and special sauce -- usually sweet bean sauce. The way to
eat it is to coat the thin pancake with sauce, slap on a few pieces of meat and roll up the pancake. Chopsticks are optional: it is much easier just to grab the thing with your bare hands. Normally there are many dishes served with the duck, including a dish of fine-cut shallot bars, a dish of
cucumber bars and finally a dish of paste-like soy of fermented wheat flour. The dinner usually ends with a rich cream-colored duck soup made from the duck.

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Chinese Class - Dinghu Mountain National Nature Reserve

2009-01-08T12:42:00.001-08:00

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Dinghu Mountain National Nature Reserve

The first nature reserve in China isDinghu Mountain National Nature Reserve. It was established in 1956 near Zhaoqing City in Guangdong Province mainly to protectevergreen monsoon rain forests of the south subtropical zone. The Reserve lies between east longitude of 112o30′- 112o33′ and north
latitude of 23o09′- 23o11′ with an area of 1,133 hectares.The natural forest of the region is one of the special natural forest types in the world,and therefore it is of high science and research value. In 1979, Dinghu Mountain National Nature Reserve was included in the International Man and
Biosphere Reserve Network of the UNESCO as a global conservation spot for the research of ecosystem in tropical and subtropical forest.

Climate

The climate here isdamp monsoon climate of south subtropical zone. It is moist and rainy, providing favorable conditions for plants to grow. The temperature is quite different in summer and in winter. The annual average temperature is 20.9℃. The average temperature in July, the hottest month, is
28.0℃with the extremely highest temperature of 38.0℃. In contrast, the average temperature in January, the coldest month here, is 12.6℃with the extremely lowest temperature of 0.2℃below zero. The annual precipitation tops 1.929 millimeters. The annual relative humidity averages 82%. July,
August and September are typhoon months and about 4 typhoons hit the region every year.

Physical Features

Dinghu Mountain is one of the four famous mountains -- Danxia, Dinghu, Xiqiao and Luofu in Guangdong Province. Dinghu Mountain has more than 10 peaks such as Dinghu, Sanbao, Fenglai, Jilong, Fuhu and Qingshi. The peaks are about 500 meters above sea level. The highest peak is Jilong with an
altitude of 1,003 meters. There is over 900 meters in terms of altitude between the highest peak and the lowest one. There is red soil in each zone in the Reserve. Yellow soil and grassy marshland are vertically distributed in the Reserve. Two streams rising in Jilong Mountain run perennially from
northwest to southeast and join at the entrance of Dinghu Mountain National Natural Reserve before flowing into Xijiang River.

Biological Features

The forest coverage in the Reserve reaches 78%. Evergreen broad-leavedforests of south subtropical zone with a history of 400 years are well protected. As top vegetation in the monsoon zone, they are precious natural heritage belonging to China and the whole world. The vegetationis vertically
distributed with rich and conspicuous features into several types including monsoon evergreen broad-leaved forests and mountainous evergreen broad-leaved forests.

There are abundant animal and plant resources with great variety. More than 2,400 species of plants are distributed here, and of these species, about 1,700 higher plants including 320 xyplants and over 900 plants for medicine, 110 fibrous plants and 70 oil plants among which 22 rare, precious and
endangered plants under the special state protection including Lichi chinensis and Cycas spp. In addition, there are more than 170 species of birds, 30 species of animals and 20 species of pythons, among which leopards, serows and silver pheasants are under the state protection. Silver pheasant is
the official bird of Guangdong Province.

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Chinese Speaking - Sable

2009-01-07T12:29:00.001-08:00

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Sable

Also known as Mink, Marten, Red Mink and Grand Foliate, it belongs to the Mustelidae family of Carnivora order. Its Latin scientific name is Martes zibillina, and English name is Sable.

Its body is slender, with four stout limbs, and the body shape is like yellow weasel but slightly larger. The male is generally larger than the female. It has five toes with sharp and bent claws. Its ears are large and erect, slightly triangular-shaped. The tail hair is tousy. Its body color is
black brown, slightly mixed with white acicular hair; and the head is light grayish brown, with the ear brim spotted with white color. It has yellow or yellowish white larynx spots. Thei chest has tan hair, while the belly is in lighter color. Its winter pelt is of top quality due to its dense,
rich and generous fuzz, and also because of the cutis plate with good elasticity.

It lives in coniferous forestss or mixed broadleaf-conifer forests in sub-frigid zone, mostly building nests in tree holes or on stone heaps. Except mating time, it mostly lives alone, with acute sight and audition, as well as quick action. Once astonished, it will instantly disappear in the
woods. Feed on mini-type rodent, avifauna, pine nuts, wild fruits, and bird ova, it regularly looks for food at night on the ground or under snow; when there is a food shortage, it also come out in daytime for hunting. Its range of movement is within 5 to 10 square kilometers. The estrous period
is from April to May every year, and the gestation period lasts 9 to 10 month. It has 2 to 4 babies per fetus, and grows to sexual maturity at the age of 3. Its main natural enemy is Yellow-throated Martens and birds of prey.

Sable isdistributed in Heilongjiang, Jilin and Liaoning provinces, as well as Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.

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Chinese Online Class - Giant Panda

2009-01-06T17:55:00.001-08:00

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Giant Panda

It belongs to the Ailuropodidae family of Carnivora order. Its scientific name is Ailuropoda melanoleuca (Latin), or Giant Panda, or Bamboo Bear (English)

The body length of adult male is150 to 180 centimetersand the height of shoulder is 65 to 70 centimeters. The tail is 12 to 14 centimeters long. Generally it weighs 80 to 125 kilograms, and the female is 10 to 20 percent smaller than the male. The form of the body is like the black bear, with
round and large head and rather short tail. Its trunk and tail are white, while the ears, eyes and four limbs are black.

Inhabiting in high mountain forests at an elevation of 1,300 to 3,600 meters, it is most often seen in mixed broadleaf-conifer forests under which there are arrow bamboos, square bamboos or other canebrake. Except estrous period, it leads a solitary life, good at climbing trees and swimming. Its
main food is bamboo and bamboo shoots, as well as Chinese gooseberry and other fruits, and once in a while it also eats dead animals. The oestrus is from the last ten days of March to the middle ten days of May. The gestation period lasts 97 to 163 days. The actual growth of the embryo is about
1.5 month. It procreates once every 2 years, with generally one baby per fetus, once in a while two babies. The newborn baby weighs only 90 to 130 grams; it begins to eat bamboo 5 to 6 months after birth and is ablactated at the age of 8 to 9 months. At about 18 months old it leaves its mother. In
general, it grows to sexual maturity at the age of 55 to 65 months. Under breeding condition, it has a lifespan of 26 years.

Giant panda is a precious and rare animal endemic to China and in the verge of extinction, only distributed in Sichuan Province, Gansu Province, and Qinling of Shaanxi Province, with the present quantity of about 1000.

Belonging to national first-grade animal species under protection, it has been listed in Appendix I ofInternational Trade Convention on Endangered Wild Animal and Plant Species. Owing to great difficulty in propagation, the quantity under artificial breeding condition is limited. By far, zoos and
farms of natural protection areas in China and abroad, have obtained more than 240 of Giant Pandas from open fields, for the requirements of exhibition, breeding and research. At present there are less than 100 heads under artificial breeding (including self-bred quantity).

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Chinese Studies - Dance Along the River during the Qingming Festival

2009-01-05T20:45:00.001-08:00

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Dance Along the River during the Qingming Festival

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The famous painting Along the River During the Qingming Festival depicting in great details the economy, culture, and customs of the Northern Song dynasty almost a thousand years ago nowadays is choreographed into a folk dance by several veteran Hong Kong artists. The creative dance performance
displays the prosperity of the ancient capital city with an modern expression.

During the Song Dynasty, dance trickled its way down from the imperial palace to the common man, spurring the art form on toward its golden age. The dance drama Along the River during the Qingming Festival rests on the foundation of Chinese traditional culture, bringing together a rich array of
Central Plains dance culture as source material. Rather than using a traditional story line, it is made up of eighteen poetic chapters, using a unique "freehand" style to portray the rich and multi-faceted life along the Bianhe River during the Northern Song Dynasty. A myriad of dance forms along
with a real sense of modern art bring life to traditional folk dance, invoking musings on the ancient past, leading the audience—following the dancers' steps—into a dazzlingly and flourishing age.

This performance will be staged from July 16 to 17 at National Centre for Performing Arts.

The historical dance drama Along the River during the Qingming Festival was first performed as a gift in commemoration of the tenth anniversary of Hong Kong's return to the Mainland in July of 2007, at the Hong Kong Cultural Centre Grand Theatre. Following, during November and December of the same
year, the production made its way to Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhou and Nanjing, including performances at the "Shanghai Creative Industry Activity Week" and "The Fifth Beijing International Dance Season".

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Chinese language - Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region

2009-01-04T10:45:00.001-08:00

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Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region

Geography

Xinjiang was set up as an autonomous region on October 1, 1955. It has an area of more than 1.66 million square kilometers, one sixth of the total size of China and larger than any other province or autonomous region.

Climate

Situated deep in the interior of Asia and not penetrated by the air currents from the oceans, the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region has conspicuous continental climate, with highly changeable temperature, great difference in temperature between day and night, abundant sunshine, intense evaporation
and little precipitation. The mean annual temperature of Xinjiang is 11.7oC -- the hottest month, July, averaging about 25oC and the coldest month, January, -20oC in the north) and -10oC in the south -- and a mean annual precipitation of 150 mm.

Administrative Division and Population

It is divided into 2 prefecture-level cities, 5 districts, 5 autonomous prefectures, 14 county-level cities, 61 counties and 6 autonomous counties with a population of 19.25 million by 2000, of which 5 million are the Uygurs, the principal minority group there, the rest are the Hans, Kazaks,
Mongolians, Huis, Xibes, Kirgizes, Ozbeks, Tajiks, Russians, Manchus, Daurs and Tatars.

Food

Baked Full Goat, Baked Baozi, Pellicle Baozi, Kebab, Braised Jemmy and Goat's Hoof, Youtazi (Oil Pagoda), etc.

Culture

The Uygur dances, such as the "Bowls-on-Head Dance", "Drum Dance", "Iron Ring Dance", "Puta Dance" and "Sainaim Dance". Uygur musical instruments, such as the Dutar, strummed Rawap and Dap.

Brief Introduction

The Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (Xin for short) is located in Northwest China, with its capital city in Urumqi.

Surrounded by lofty mountains, Xinjiang is known far and wide as the home of fruits and melons. Its main agricultural produces include wheat, corn, cotton and plenty of fruit like Hami melon, grape, fig, Ili apple, etc. Being one of China's five major pastoral areas, it has advanced livestock
breeding. It also has rich resources of petroleum, bowlder, gold and nonferrous metals

Xinjiang is well known for the expanse of its area and richness of natural resources, as well for its wonderful scenic spots and enchanting spectacles of nature. Many "mosts" of China are found in Xinjiang -- the driest, hottest, and coldest places are in Xinjiang, and China's longest inland
river, lowest land and greatest desert are here as well. Here the tourist can see a most spectacular and engrossing topography of the world, locally known as "Yadan". The longest inland river, The Turpan Basin is the second lowest land on the earth next to the Dead Sea in Jordon, while the Mount
Qogir, 8,611 meters above sea level, is second in height only to the Mount Everest.

Historical and cultural tourism in Xinjiang is most attractive for its unique charm. The Silk Road, which runs across Xinjiang horizontally, is known to the whole world. Xinjiang is endowed with 236 ancient cultural sites, tombs, architectures, Buddhist caves, stone sculptures, and modern
commemorative monuments of historical, artistic, and scientific value. Within the territory of Xinjiang, there are a number of ancient city ruins such as Gaochang Ancient City, City Site in State of Loulan, and the Site of Niya. The region has established 22 nature reserves.

Vast in area, Xinjiang has various types of geographical conditions and multitude of regional and ethical cultures. Its scenic spots and historical sites include the Heavenly Lake of Tianshan Mountain, the Flaming Mountains of Turpan, the Mosque in Kaxi, etc.

Xinjiang is also a region of many minority groups in China, and its people is known far and wide for being excellent at singing and dancing.

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The Fédération Internationale de Gymnastique (FIG) was formed on 23 July 1881 when representatives of the gymnastics associations of Belgium, France and the Netherlands met in Liège. As a governing body it is held in high esteem by both its member federations and gymnastics clubs throughout
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Gymnastics has a long, proud history. The sport can be traced back to ancient Greece, where such skills featured in the ancient Olympic Games. Ancient Rome, Persia, India and China practised similar disciplines, mostly aimed at preparing young men for battle. The word itself derives from the Greek
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2009-01-02T08:35:00.001-08:00

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Hainan Province

Geography

Situated 108'37"-117'50" east longitude and 3'58"-20'20" north latitude, Hainan Province, at the southernmost tip of China, is separated from Guangdong Province on the mainland by the Qiongzhou Straits. Established as a province in April 1988, Hainan covers an area of 34,000 square kilometers,
including the Hainan Island and the Xisha, Nansha, and Zhongsha islands and their surrounding territorial waters.

Climate

Hainan enjoys a tropical monsoon climate and is frost-free all year round. It has a mean annual temperature of 22.5oC-26oC, and a mean annual precipitation of 1,500-2,600 mm. It is frequently visited by typhoons throughout the year.

Administrative Division and Population

It is divided into 2 prefecture-level cities, 7 county-level cities, 4 counties and 6 autonomous counties, with a population of 7.87 million by 2000, mainly including ethnic groups of Han, Li, Hui, Miao and Zhuang.

Food

Nowadays, Hainan cuisine is very popular all over the world, especially the fresh and delicious seafood.

Culture

Qiong Opera, songs and dances of Li and Miao nationalities

Brief Introduction

What particularly attracts tourists, both domestic and foreign, to Hainan is its characteristic beauty of south China with sunshine, beaches, seawater and hot springs. As a result if recent efforts, Hainan has completed and put into use a series of holiday resorts with high-level hotels, becoming
a fabulous competitor in the tourist market of East Asia. Leading festivals are the Hainan International Festival of Coconuts and Third Day of Third Lunar Month Festival.

About 6,000 years ago, there were ancient people living in present Hainan area. Hainan first entered written history in 110BC, when the Han Dynasty (206BC-220AD) established a garrison there. In the Yuan dynasty (1271-1368) it became an independent province, but was placed under Guangdong Province
in 1370 during the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644).

Hainan Province, also called Qiong, is located in the southernmost part of China. The Hainan Island is like a circle island. From the center spread outward, the rugged hills, plains and sea were linked one after another. Zengmu'ansha is the hottest place in the southwest.

Established in 1988, Hainan Province is the largest special economic zone and the youngest province in China. It abounds in minerals and resources of animals and plants, especially its rich petroleum and natural gas. With the high speed of economic development, it becomes the key production base
of tropical products in China, including sugar cane, peanuts, coco, coffee, sisal, pineapple, seafood, precious timber and plastic, etc.

The Hainan Island has a coastal line of 1,580 kilometers, and it enjoys a tropical monsoon climate and is frost-free all year round. The climate is warm all year round with sunshine most of the times. The forest area covers more than 50% of the total island. Its natural beauty has gained a good
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With blue clear sea and fresh air, the island is covered with beautiful tropical plants. There are many famous places to visit, such as the Wugong Temple (the Five Officials Memorial Temple), the scenic spot of Tianya Haijiao (the Remotest End of the Earth and Corner of the Ocean), the Dadong
River and the Yalong Bay in Sanya City.

Hainan is a multinational region, and there the ethnic villages of Li and Miao are very typical. The hospitable villagers will treat you with traditional food as well as wonderful singing and dancing performances. So the Li and Miao Villages in Hainan are well worth a visit.

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Chinese language - How to distinguish between j and q -

2008-12-24T08:22:00.001-08:00

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strongneo -

Please help me, I just started learning Chinese, now I am focusing on practising pronunciation. I
hardly differentiate between the initial j and q when listening and don't know how to pronounce
them correctly.

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HashiriKata -

For j, try to say "jeep" (100 times exactly) and for q, say "cheap" (another 100 times).
Afterwards, move to the Chinese words you want to practise that start with j or q and repeat each
for 100 times. Keep doing this for 100 days and let us know how you've got on.

Good luck!

Language Guy -

Cheap? Let's also not forget the difference between "q" and "ch". I find that distinction MUCH
more difficult.

HashiriKata -

Quote:

Let's also not forget the difference between "q" and "ch". I find that distinction MUCH more
difficult

Be a little more communicative, Language Guy. Tell us something about the difference!

(Incidentally, when I say "cheap", I don't simply mean "ch". You have to follow my exact
instruction to discover the depth )

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EDIT:
Language Guy, my post above was due to my misunderstanding of your meaning. I see now that your
"ch" is meant the pinyin "ch" and not the English "ch", is this correct?

If so, once "q" is already mastered, pull the tip of your tongue further back (from your front
teeth) to pronounce words starting with "ch" (curl the tip of your tongue up to touch the roof of
your mouth while producing the sound). The approximate sound in English for the Chinese "ch" is
something like the "ch" in choose, church, charge, etc. The Chinese "zh" is simply a non-aspirated
version of "ch", just as "j" is a non-aspirated version of "q".

againstwind -

Quote:

For j, try to say "jeep" (100 times exactly) and for q, say "cheap" (another 100 times)

Em...Perhaps it can work.

First of all, I wonder if you keb1717 are Japanese or you have learned Japanese. If yes, that will
be easy to explain.

If not, anyway, the most obvious difference between [j] and [q] in Chinese is that [q] is
aspirated and [j] is not.

And the difference between Chinese [q] and English [ch] is, simply speaking, when pronouncing the
former the lip is not protrudent, whereas when pronounceing the latter the lip is protrudent.

As for Chinese [q] and Chinese [ch], can you differentiate them by yourself now?

Here is my recording of Chinese [ji],[qi],[chi].
Any more question on their difference is welcome.

p.s.
Sorry I can't input the font of IPA in this forum.

leosmith -

Quote:

I hardly differentiate between the initial j and q when listening and don't know how to pronounce
them correctly.

Hi strongneo,
Welcome! I'm also a beginner. This site should answer most of your pronunciation questions:
http://www.sinosplice.com/lang/pronunciation/04/

Quote:

For j, try to say "jeep" (100 times exactly) and for q, say "cheap" (another 100 times).
Afterwards, move to the Chinese words you want to practise that start with j or q and repeat each
for 100 times. Keep doing this for 100 days and let us know how you've got on.

HashiriKata-kun, please don't mislead us beginners; we may not understand that you're joking.

HashiriKata -

Quote:

HashiriKata-kun, please don't mislead us beginners; we may not understand that you're joking.

Sorry leosmith, what makes you think that I was joking? Seriously, I do not joke when that could
mislead.

By the way, the "kun" you used after my name is not correct. Where did you learn that usage?

nephridium -

The difference between j and q is that q is an 'affricative' consonant, the other one isn't.
Affricative means that if you say the consonant in front of a candle the flame will move
noticeably from the air puff.

As for the location of the tongue, it's located for both consonants at the same position; try to
make a sound halfway between "ts" (can't think of an English word with this sound) and "tsh" (this
would be the sound in "cheap") or "ds" (as in salads) and "dsh" (as in "jeep") - that should come
close to the correct pronunciations.

Jose -

Quote:

Let's also not forget the difference between "q" and "ch". I find that distinction MUCH more
difficult.

In fact, q and ch can be regarded as two variants (allophones in phonetic jargon) of the same
sound. This is so because they are used with different vowels. In front of all Mandarin vowels
except "i" and "ü", you find "ch" and "zh". These are retroflex consonants, the first one being
aspirated and the second one unaspirated. You also have "c" and "z", which sound more like English
"ts". The distinction between "ch" and "c", and "zh" and "z", is the hallmark of elegant Mandarin
pronunciation. Many, maybe most, people in China, both in the South and the North, are unable to
make the distinction.

Now the imporant thing to bear in mind is that this elegant distinction between "cha" and "ca",
"che" and "ce", and so on completely disappears in front of "i" and "ü". In front of these vowels
you only have "qi" and "qü" (spelt "qu" in pinyin orthography just as a convention). The vowels
"i" and "ü" are high front vowels and they are articulated at a very different position within
the mouth when compared with the rest of the vowels. You can imagine these vowels as somehow
pushing the pronunciation
of the consonant so that the "c"/"ch" pair merges into "q" while the "z"/"zh" pair merges into
"j". Try saying ca and cha, and then c + i and ch + i. You will notice that it is more difficult
to keep the distinction, and if you find articulating a palatal consonant, you're probably getting
it.

Be careful here not to be tricked by the double use of "i" and "u" in pinyin. Some people assume
that "q" and "ch" have distinctive value because of bogus pairs like "chi" - "qi" "chu" - "qu"
"chuan" - "quan", and so on. But all these syllables actually have different vowels. The "i" in
"chi" is the so-called empty rhyme, while the vowel in "qi" is the normal "i" as in "yi" or "bi".
Similarly, the "chu" - "qü" "chuan" - "qüan" pairs look clearly different if we clarify the
spelling by using the actual vowel "ü".

You can see this schematically:

Elegant standard pronunciation:

Code:

Middle and back vowels front vowels

ca ce [...] cu
\
qi 'qü'
/
cha che [...] chu

Widespread non-Beijing pronunciation:

Code:

Middle and back vowels front vowels

ca ce [...] cu qi 'qü'

The same thing happens with "z"/"zh" v. "j", and with "s"/"sh" v. "x". Because of that, the use of
different letters for "j", "q", and "x" is not fundamentally necessary in transcription systems of
Chinese, and systems like Gwoyeu Romatzyh or Wade-Giles do not make this distinction. In pinyin it
is probably a legacy of bopomofo.

This is one of the points about pinyin I don't completely like. A few months ago I wrote a few
criticisms of pinyin in an older thread, where I tried to explain some conventions in pinyin that
I find misleading, and that confused me greatly when I was starting to learn Chinese. I think it
probably took me two years or more to realise that qu was actually pronounced with the lü vowel!

Language Guy -

HashiriKata, I'm glad you go the message of my post.

I'm only a beginner, and although I have training in linguistics and phonetics, I'm still no
expert at the Chinese language.

The best way I would describe the difference between the pinyin sounds 'x' and 'sh', 'j' and 'zh',
'q' and 'ch' is that the formers are shallower, performed at the front of the mouth, while the
latters are formed more near the rear.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Chinese Speaking - Non-Chinese Cantonese speakers - Page 6 -

2008-12-23T08:51:00.001-08:00

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I read somewhere that he has already left TVB.....

Yes, 河國榮 left TVB, that's sad....less chance to see him on tv. But I hope audience get to
see him in other media production in the future.

Am I his fans? um...not really. But he is one of the actor that I like to see in drama.

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wannabeafreak -

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Gregory Charles Rivers 河國榮

Anyone heard of him? He speak fluent and clear Cantonese, and been involved in many TVB
productions for years.

A while ago, I saw a interview of him. It's interesting to know how he steps into the HK media
career.

Did you even bother to read this thread or just decide to read the last page and decide to post
this?

Quote:

I have a feeling he's gay. He used to be a student at my old school where he studied medicine for
a year. Seeing Leslie Cheung in one occasion in Australia, he decided to go to Hong Kong where his
idol was based. He did and has never gone back since.

What rubbish are you on? He's been married for 20 years. I met both him and his his wife.

Quest -

This is mandarin, but whose daughter is this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2L2eLzRzamI&feature=related
Have you spent more time on Chinese than she's been alive?

huisheng -

First of all, I have nothing against him or gay people. And I think one has issues thinking being
called gay is offensive. I'd offer an apology if Mr Rivers finds what I said offensive though. I
saw his name in the famous UNSW alumni list on Wikipedia. As the information there said he was a
Hong Kong-based actor, I was tempted to learn more about him. Unfortuantly what I got from
googling is pretty much what I said previously. So I assumed he was 40-ish and single. UNSW is one
of the best Unis in the country and people are dying to get into Medicine. Since he gave up his
study and thus a promising career opportunity because of his obsession over Cheung, and supposedly
he was never married, I suspected he was gay. Being gay makes one a minority. Being a minority
makes one different. Being different is worth knowing. This is how my logic went.

LaVandez -

This is the new reality that's creeping up on people who haven't been keeping watch. This is going
to be more and more common and less of a shock to people. I like having these people out there who
are just tearing it up when it comes to the language it's great to aspire to even if you never
reach the top of the mountain.

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Chinese School - 20th Century Chinese Poetry -- a question -

2008-12-22T08:40:00.001-08:00

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cui ruide -

I'll be going to Hangzhou in the spring, and I need to decided a 1 on 1 (student and professor)
topic to pursue for a class. I'm a huge fan of Chinese poetry and have already taken a couple
courses in translation dealing with older Chinese lit (Book of Songs to pre-20th), but I've never
really studied 20th Cen. lit. One topic idea I'm mullying over is 20th Cen. Chinese Lit. with an
emphasis on May 4th poets and the contemporary(?) Misty Poets.

Has anyone had any experience with these groups or read much? What do you think of them?

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Lu -

I haven't read that much, but more than most people, I suppose.

Misty poetry (朦胧诗歌) is contemporary (that is, of after the CR), they came up in the 1980s.
I think that they were actually the first contemporary Chinese poets, contemporary Chinese poetry
started with them, and many later poets reacted to them in one way or the other. Some of the Misty
poets are still writing (and Jintian still exists), but as a movement Misty poetry doesn't exist
anymore.

Some poets: 北岛，舒婷，芒克，杨炼，顾城。Bei Dao and Mang Ke had founded 今天, a
magazine for new poetry, in 1978, and that started it off. The poetry was considered 'misty',
because the critics, used to very clear CR poetry, didn't understand it. To a westerner used to
much more obscure poetry, it's actually not so misty.
Here is some info about Bei Dao, and here is another one of his poems.
I tried to find Yang Lian's 'Wild Goose Pagoda' but couldn't find it on the net; anyway, that's a
good poem too (although I'm not sure if it's Misty, strictly speaking).

Personally I like some of the Misty poetry quite a lot. It's very different than Song and Tang
poetry, much more western (modern Chinese poetry was heavily influenced by the west, contemporary
poetry followed that trend).

I hope this is useful for you, if you want to know anything else, just ask.

gato -

Here is a great site with a mega collection of Chinese poetry, including modern.
http://www.poets.cn/xinshi/index.htm

I like 徐志摩 and 戴望舒, both from the pre-1949 period.
http://www.poets.cn/xinshi/xuzhimo.htm
徐志摩诗选

我不知道风

－－－我不知道风
是在那一个方向吹
－－－我是在梦中，
在梦的轻波里依洄。

我不知道风
是在那一个方向吹
－－－我是在梦中，
她的温存，我的迷醉。

我不知道风
是在那一个方向吹
－－－我是在梦中，
甜美是梦里的光辉。

我不知道风
是在那一个方向吹
－－我是在梦中，
她的负心，我的伤悲。

我不知道风
是在那一个方向吹
－－－我是在梦中，
在梦的悲哀里心碎！

我不知道风
是在那一个方向吹
－－－我是在梦中，
黯淡是梦里的光辉！

http://www.poets.cn/xinshi/daiwangshu.htm
戴望舒诗选

http://www.cctv.com/program/dssgsw/2...8/101574.shtml
　　戴望舒

　　雨巷

　　撑着油纸伞，独自
　　彷徨在悠长、悠长
　　又寂寥的雨巷
　　我希望逢着
　　一个丁香一样地
　　结着愁怨的姑娘

　　她是有
　　丁香一样的颜色
　　丁香一样的芬芳
　　丁香一样的忧愁
　　在雨中哀怨
　　哀怨又彷徨

　　她彷徨在这寂寥的雨巷
　　撑着油纸伞
　　像我一样
　　像我一样地
　　默默彳亍着
　　冷漠、凄婉、又惆怅

　　她静默地走近
　　走近又投出
　　叹息一般的眼光
　　她飘过像梦一般地
　　像梦一般地凄婉迷茫

　　像梦中飘过
　　一支丁香地
　　我身旁飘过这女郎
　　她静默地远了远了
　　到了颓圮的篱墙
　　走尽这雨巷

　　在雨的哀曲里
　　消了她的颜色
　　散了她的芬芳
　　消散了甚至她的
　　叹息般的眼光
　　丁香般的惆怅

　　撑着油纸伞独自
　　彷徨在悠长悠长
　　又寂寥的雨巷
　　我希望飘过
　　一个丁香一样地
　　结着愁怨的姑娘

hkkevin -

I don't know modern poetry, but it has become a very hot topic in China in recent days, after a
new stream of poetry is released. A poet, Zhao Li-hua released her latest poems , which are
written almost like a daily conversation. "Huh, Can we call it a poem?" Most said.

It's not surprised to see her new try, but it really surprised me that such topic can catch a wide
attention from the newspaper in China.

see her blog: http://blog.sina.com.cn/m/zhaolihua

natalie -

Good morning to you all,

Can you please translate these poems into English? I am so curious...
Poetry is my oxygen...
I am only beginning my 2nd year of Chinese studies but so eager to read Chinese poetry...

So if you may translate...
I'll embrace you from afar!

This is the Jewish new year so I'll wish you all a happy new year!

~ Natalie ~

gato -

At your request, here is a rough translation of the first one by Xu Zhimo.

I Don't Know the Wind (我不知道风)
Xu Zhimo (徐志摩, 1897-1931)

--- I don't know the wind
Is blowing in which way
--- I am lost in my dreams
Riding the waves of my dreams.

I don't know the wind
Is blowing in which way
I am lost in my dreams
Her warmth, my intoxication.

I don't know the wind
Is blowing in which way
I am lost in my dreams
Sweetness the light of my dreams.

I don't know the wind
Is blowing in which way
I am lost in my dreams
Her indifference, my sorrow.

I don't know the wind
Is blowing in which way
I am lost in my dreams
Heartbroken in the sadness of my dreams.

I don't know the wind
Is blowing in which way
I am lost in my dreams
Darkness the light of my dreams.

gato -

The second one by Dai Wangshu is much harder to translate because it's much more dependent on its
rhyme. Here's a very rough attempt.

Rainy Lane (雨巷)
Dai Wangshu (戴望舒, 1905-1950)

Holding an oilpaper umbrella, alone
Wandering through a long
And lonesome rainy lane,
I hope to meet
A clove-like girl
Bearing of melancholy.

She has
The same color as a clove
The same smell as a clove
The same worries as a clove
Forlorn in the rain
Forlorn and unsure.

She wanders through this lonesome lane
Holding an oilpaper umbrella
Like me
Like me
Walking silently
Cold, sad, and melancholy

She quietly walks near
Walks near, and gives
A glance like a sigh
She floats by
Like a dream
Sad and mysterious like a dream.

Like a clove
In a dream,
The lady floats past me.
She quietly gets further and further
To the collapsed bamboo wall
To the end of the rainy lane.

In the requiem of the rain,
Her color is washed off
Her smell dissipated,
Even her
Sigh-like glance is lost.

Holding an oilpaper umbrella, alone
Wandering through a long
And lonesome rainy lane.
I hope to float by
A clove-like girl
Bearing of melancholy.

natalie -

Thank you so much!

so moving...
Will love ever be sadness free?...

HashiriKata -

Quote:

Will love ever be sadness free?...

But then you may feel love is not quite love without sadness... ()

gato -

Oh, it's been a year. How was your of Chinese studying?

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Learning Mandarin - Popup Chinese Translator for Firefox!! -

2008-12-21T08:34:00.001-08:00

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xentropic -

Finally theres a plugin for Firefox that will allow you to mouse over chinese and get a popup that
gives you the pinyin pronuncation and english meaning. I modded the plugin Rikai-chan which did
the same to Japanese along with adding the ability to export the word you highlighted to an
external file you can use to add to a flashcard list or something like that. It searches the
CEDICT dictionary file which doesnt seem to have anywhere near the entries the japanese EDICT has,
but its better than nothing. If all else fails , you can at least get a character by character
reading. In the options you menu you can choose Simplified or Traditional which will change what
gets displayed in the popup AND what version will be exported (if you choose both it will export
both but display simplified in teh popup). Currently the export format is in GB2312 so it might
looked scrambled in notepad or something but will read correctly when you import your list into a
flashcard program that reads that encoding. Later I will add more features and fix little things
here and there (I modded it in 5 hours) but it is way more than usable now so I figured it release
it rather than using just for myself. Enjoy!! Comments/Ideas welcome.

peraperakun at gmail.com
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necroflux -

Trying it out right now, I'll let you know how it goes.

gato -

Why does it say "please install a dictionary for peraperakun" when I try to toggle it on?

xentropic -

do you have rikaichan installed also, apparently theres a resource confict with that ?? ill fix it
in a few days, it worked fine on 4 computers that i tested it on

gato -

No, never had rikaichan installed. I do have moji installed, however.

necroflux -

Got the same message here, I don't have any dictionaries installed to my knowledge.

xentropic -

yea your right there was something in the code looking for a dictionary to be installed....fixed
that problem, sorry about that, i double checked it this time should work. so please uninstall it
and try the new one. v0.1.1

ive been using it for awhile and so has my friend and finally decided to put it up for people so
there might be a few problems at the beginning on other peoples machines...dunno

doumeizhen -

can you give us the new link, please?

xentropic -

i uploaded the fix like over 12 hours ago but its waiting "approval" from mozilla which is just an
automated script that checks the files validity, once thats over it will be on the same site and
appear as ver 0.1.1 dunno when that will ever happen, but when it does you can download it from
the same site

atitarev -

Yes, give us the new download link, please!

I am an active user of Rikaichan. Hanzi Bar is similar but Rikaichan has a better look-and-feel, I
was looking forward to this innovation!

The alternative is Hanzi Bar, you can read any Chinese web-page in your Firefox, and you can do it
off-line, too.

Hanzi Bar:
http://realimaginary.com/
It's a bit tricky, you also need to install dictionaries (separate download)

Let's see what peraperakun does!

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Chinese School - Newcomers to BLCU (and other univ..) - Let's have a coffee or something. - Page 3 -

2008-12-20T08:21:00.001-08:00

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Allright, count me in.

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doumeizhen -

Beer!

I mean, yes, count me in too, please!

Tutor -

@ billiardsmike: if there is no "good" coffee (well, I think "good" depends on what you are used
to, even a decent coffee is fine for me) to be found beer is also a good choice ;)

@ all: I think I'll try one of the places around cava coffee - you are welcome if you want to join
me!

Tutor -

1st experience: I wanted to go to Cava Coffee today but a bit further down the road I spotted an
"Illy" sign )) - one of the best mass roasted coffees in my opinion - the coffee was good and the
atmosphere also appealing --> all in all a really good choice!

Qcash3 -

Quote:

one of the best mass roasted coffees in my opinion

Do they serve beer or tea? I'm strictly a tea person when it comes to hot caffeinated drinks .

aimei -

Count me in! Me and my bf just arrived and are here till december. I am in Hai Dian now, there is
a Starbucks (I know I know ) near me at the shopping center by the Carrefour here. I haven't
really seen any other coffee places around here (I assume most of us are in Hai Dian as well....)

Qcash3 -

I read in a guide book somewhere about Starbucks "conquering Beijing like the Mongolian hordes did
centuries ago"

teachinator -

when we took a short trip to Beijing. I know it's very parochial of me, but it was a relief to
find a place where I pretty much knew what I would get. We got totally ripped off at one of those
"coffee places" at the Great Wall (nasty, vastly overpriced drinks in a buy-more-ripoff-stuff
atmosphere), and when I realized there was a Starbucks about a mile outside the entrance, I wished
we had gone there instead.

billiardsmike -

Don't get me wrong, Starbucks is great, just a little expensive, even when I was used to US
prices. I've since seen a few more options, so I'll start taste-testing my way around town.

Qcash3 -

Quote:

Don't get me wrong, Starbucks is great, just a little expensive, even when I was used to US
prices. I've since seen a few more options, so I'll start taste-testing my way around town.

You can't put a price on the love and dedication that goes into a chai latte. At least that's what
Starbucks would have us believe....

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Free Chinese Lesson - 明清政府不但奖励守节的女人 -

2008-12-19T08:41:00.001-08:00

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Here is the 5th paragraph from the text from Chapter 45, Huang and Stimpson, Written Standard
Chinese vol 4. The title of the essay is 中国妇女的解放。
女人的丈夫死了再去嫁人，在汉朝的时候社会上是许可的。到了唐朝，
妇女仍然有再嫁的自由。唐朝一代公主再嫁的就有二十三个之多。
只是到了宋朝，
风气渐渐改变。社会上的领导人物主张妇女守节。后来明清政府不但奖励守�
��的女人，而且女人家里的人也可以从政府里得到好处；
于是这种可怕的观念就一直深入到农村里去。
Here is my translation:
After a woman’s husband died, during the Han Dynasty, she was allowed to remarry. At the time of
the Tang Dynasty, women still had the freedom to remarry. The Tang Dynasty had over 23 princesses
who remarried. Only with the Song Dynast did customs (ethos according to adsotrans) change little
by little.
The leaders of society advocated being faithful (to a deceased husband) [守节]。 Afterwards,
the Ming government not only encouraged women who continued fidelity (to a deceased husband), but
also the woman’s family could gain benefits from the government; (thereupon)(this led to) this
frightful concept entered directly and deeply into (rural) village (customs).The book has the
definition of 守节, as "be faithful (to a deceased husband)".
I am curious how this worked. Huang and Stimson seem to use strong language calling this a
frightful custom. One view is that the govt supplied life insurance upon the death of the husband.
Is their condemnation based on the point that the widow did not actually get control of that
money, and instead the woman's family did? So the family had some kind of economic incentive to
not have the widow remarry?

And the comment about entering into rural village customs: is the point that even if it was common
among the upper classes, not until it began to pervade village customs can it be said to truely be
part of Chinese culture?

Thanks for any clarification.

I am not through with the essay, so this might (or might not) clearer when I finish it.

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One view is that the govt supplied life insurance upon the death of the husband. Is their
condemnation based on the point that the widow did not actually get control of that money, and
instead the woman's family did? So the family had some kind of economic incentive to not have the
widow remarry?

I don't think governments from Song to Qing Dynasty could supply life insurance upon the death of
the husband. I haven’t seen any historical books even mentioned anything in this field.
Especially Song, Ming, and Qing Dynasty were suffered from 1.excessive governmental officials,
2.civil wars or foreign invasion (sometimes both), 3.corruption, 4.natural disasters. Sometimes
even those who lost their sons or husbands as solders in wars could not get any compensation, so
how could the governments offer life insurance to widows, especially those men died naturally or
those in poor area? I haven’t heard that widow or widow’s families could get money from
government in those days.

Quote:

So the family had some kind of economic incentive to not have the widow remarry?

I think the incentive for the family to not have the widow remarry was the family thought
remarrying was not the right thing for a faithful wife to do, which was also a well-known social
common sense. If their daughter dared to remarry, that meant their daughter wasn’t a faithful
woman as the society expected her to be and both the woman and her family deserved being despised
by the whole society.

Quote:

And the comment about entering into rural village customs: is the point that even if it was common
among the upper classes, not until it began to pervade village customs can it be said to truely be
part of Chinese culture?

In my opinion, this custom was also common among the upper classes and it should be counted as a
part of Chinese culture.

Thanks!

HashiriKata -

Quote:

Huang and Stimson seem to use strong language calling this a frightful custom. One view is that
the govt supplied life insurance upon the death of the husband. Is their condemnation based on the
point that the widow did not actually get control of that money, and instead the woman's family
did? So the family had some kind of economic incentive to not have the widow remarry?

I don't think so, as the above interpretation is fighteningly materialistic . "守节" is
considered to be a frightful practice by the authors because it condemns the widows to a lonely
life, and forces them to be "faithful" to their deceased husbands for the rest of their life
regardless of any love, feelings they may have (Just imagine the widows are still in their
twenties!!), .

I also think that the "好处" in the text refers largely to non-materialistic/ intangible
benefits.

夜雨叮咚6 -

In the old days,贞操's concept is:a women, during all her life,is only allowed to have sex with
her husband or be single and never have sex. if she remarry,have been raped or have sex with
others,she would be regarded as "失贞" .
During those days, sociaty advocated women to be faithfull. Moreover, if women didn't conform to
this,it was regarded as great shame by the sociaty. she would be punished,ranging from expelling
her from her family to killing her .the killing ways were very cruel, too.(tie the women's hands
and feet,put into a cage and throw into the river; burn her to die alive and killed her). As a
saying goes :"饿死事小，失节事大". so you can imagine the cruelty! On the contrary, if a
women conform to this, being lonely all her life after her husband die, her family will rise to
fame, and she will be respected by the sociaty.
one true example: In qin dynasty, a women in a rich family，named 康烈女， be betrothed to a
poor man. Before she truely married him, the man died. but she firmly regarded herself th be his
wife and committed suicide. The man's father was a bad guy and every one looked down upon him,
after ths ,he was greatly respected . It's not a love story. women in that days act only as a
sacrificial lamb.
Because their thoughts were poisoned , most widows volunteered to be faithfull .she herself also
regarded it as virtue.
numerous grammatical mistakes! I'm from non-english speaking country.
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and enter any question about china culture, someone will answer you

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Chinese Mandarin - Translation needed -

2008-12-18T08:39:00.001-08:00

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Snazzyviper -

Hi all, I wonder if anyone could help me!?

I have seen the following on a website and thought it would look good as a tattoo on my lower
underside forearm! The site I saw it on did say what it means, but I wanted to make sure it's
correct as I can't rub it out if I have it done and it turns out to mean something else!!!

Anyway, here is what I would like translated please-

I changed two of the characters to red as I thought it would look better!

Thanks for any help you can give.

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skylee -

No use crying over spilt milk.

in_lab -

literal translation (from Dr. Eye): Spilt water can't be gathered up

Snazzyviper -

Hi, thanks for taking the time to reply

This was on the site where I saw the saying/characters-

Quote:

No use crying over spilled milk, meaning what's done is done and cannot be undone!

So it looks like the translation is correct

The reason why I liked it, is because years ago my mum and dad had just bought a new carpet and I
dropped a drink on it I was shi**ing myself because I thought that I was going to get told off,
but instead my mum just turned around and said "Don't worry about it, what's done is done" and
that has always stayed with me! (don't ask me why!)

I also thought that it was such an appropriate sentiment for a tattoo, "what's done is done and
cannot be undone"

But as you look at it, it reads No use crying over spilled milk what if people (who can understand
it) don't understand the what's done is done meaning!!!!

Hmmmmm, so do you think that it would look/read ok or not?

Any thoughts appreciated?

Strawberries513 -

yeah but the font looks odd to me though. but go ahead.

preyer -

It does have the meaning you mentioned ,but as a tattoo it may implies kind of regret about
something,

Snazzyviper -

Sorry but i forgot to ask, i saw the letters in black, by changing two of them to red, does that
alter any of the meaning at all?

Thanks

imron -

No the meaning doesn't change

skylee -

The phrase has a negative connotation. It does not really imply that you should relax because you
cannot undo what is done. It implies that something bad/regrettable has happened and there is
nothing you can do to change/rectify it.

If you tattoo it on your body, and later you find that you don't like it anymore or that it does
not really mean what you thought it did and you regret it, then that is exactly what the phrase
means.

HashiriKata -

Quote:

If you tattoo it on your body, and later you find that you don't like it anymore or that it does
not really mean what you thought it did and you regret it, then that is exactly what the phrase
means.

This kind of (small) tatoos can be taken off quite cleanly nowadays, actually.

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Chinese Mandarin - ...and now to something completely different.... -

2008-12-16T08:47:00.001-08:00

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An English lesson for our Japanese friends....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-QNWpJaiY0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qoMfBJUeI

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Language Guy -

Wow, this is great!

Thanks for the post.

Gestalt -

That's going to be going through my head all day now! "Spare Me My life!".."Spare Me My
Life.."..catchy..

flameproof -

The first tought is of course and absolutely rightly so, silly.

But I have to admit that it's extremely catchy and may even work. I can't stop thinking "is the
taxi on its way......."

芳芳 -

"let me off at the neckessete corner"

"take anything you want" "take anything you want" "take anything you want" "take anything you
want".....is that really something to say ? Could be dansgerously interpreted...(especially if in
the situation the girl says it in dancing like in the video )

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Chinese Studies - japanese verbs/particles -

2008-12-15T08:42:00.001-08:00

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1) is there a website with a list of all the verbs and all the conjugation listed?

2) what is the simplest way of remembering if a verb is in group 1 or group 2, including
exceptions, other than refering to the list?

3) under what circumstances can に replace で,へ,を etc? (especially に and を, direct(を)
and indirect(に) objects is very confusing for me)

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novemberfog -

1) Not sure, and if there was I doubt it would be inclusive of all verbs. I do know that there the
"500 Verbs" series has an edition for Japanese.

2) If the verb ends in 〜る, then you know it is class 2. If it is not する or 来る then it
cannot be class 3, thus the verb would be class 1. Exceptions will be exceptions and you just have
to memorize them as you come across them.

3) The particle に is very hard to figure out. You just have to keep reading example sentences
until you come to an understanding. Every time someone tries to make a simple definition, one
could find exceptions.

nipponman -

[quote]3) under what circumstances can に replace で,へ,を etc? (especially に and を,
direct(を) and indirect(に) objects is very confusing for me)[quote]

に and を

This is actually an easier issue than most students make it especially when talking about に and
を (Unless you're refering to their locational attributes which is different). に is an indirect
object marker, and ,を is the direct object marker. "I threw the ball to Jim"
ジムに玉を投げた.

に and へ
There is not much difference here, I don't know of any at least, they are interchangeable.

に and で
This is also a simpler issue than most make it to be. に always refers to static contexts, while
で refers to dynamic ones. 公園で遊ぶ vs. 公園に住む "To play in a park" (dynamic,
changing action) vs "To live in a park" (static, non-changing action). Be careful with this
explanation however, it doesn't extend very far. V-でいる, in one of its three uses., can be a
more static context than V+う／る, however, even though this is still the case, で is used.
子供が公園で遊んでる。に here would be incorrect. It is instructive to note that all
particle-noun phrases (e.g. 子供が,公園で ,etc) can be eliminated from conversation
(provided context is provided) except the indirect object marker に, this cannot be eliminated.

tanhql -

"If the verb ends in 〜る, then you know it is class 2. If it is not する or 来る then it
cannot be class 3, thus the verb would be class 1. Exceptions will be exceptions and you just have
to memorize them as you come across them."

not necessary. 入る,始まる,座る etc have a 〜る, but they are all in group 1.

novemberfog -

tanhql:

Quote:

If the verb ends in 〜る, then you know it is class 2. If it is not する or 来る then it
cannot be class 3, thus the verb would be class 1. Exceptions will be exceptions and you just have
to memorize them as you come across them."

not necessary. 入る,始まる,座る etc have a 〜る, but they are all in group 1.

Naturally there are exceptions, and there is nothing you can do about it but remember the verbs
that are exceptions. The only rule regarding class 2 verbs is that ~る endings designate class
two verbs.

yingguoguy -

Quote:

2) what is the simplest way of remembering if a verb is in group 1 or group 2, including
exceptions, other than refering to the list?

I find it helps to always try and learn the dictionary る form, the た/て form, and the ます
form of a verb together and try and memorize a few sentances with all the various forms. Once you
have those, most other conjegations become obvious. If I don't know the た/て form seperately I
find it hard to hear them properly in speech.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to call group 1 -iru/-eru verbs exceptions. I don't know what the
ratio of these to group 2 verbs is, but I don't think you should make any assumptions about what a
verb is, you just need to know it's group.

nipponman -

Quote:

Naturally there are exceptions, and there is nothing you can do about it but remember the verbs
that are exceptions. The only rule regarding class 2 verbs is that ~る endings designate class
two verbs.

Another thing to remember, る endings only designate class two verbs if they come after いorえ.
It cannot be a class two verb otherwise. Now, there can be class one verbs that come after い or
え　e.g帰る is 帰った but 変える is 変えた. You must memorize the cases where group
one verbs have a る that comes after い or え, you cannot memorize any other exceptions as
there is none. Remember, you can only have a group-II verb if the る ending follows an い or
え, otherwise it is group-I.　入る,始まる,座る except the first verb, all these verbs do
not follow an いorえ (the second one follows a ま the third a わ) so automatically I know that
they are group-I

Quote:

Originally Posted by yingguoguy

I think it's a bit of a stretch to call group 1 -iru/-eru verbs exceptions. I don't know what the
ratio of these to group 2 verbs is, but I don't think you should make any assumptions about what a
verb is, you just need to know it's group.

Its not a stretch, that's the rule. There are no group-II verbs that come after any other vowel
sound other than い or え, none. So, by default, all group-I verbs that follow い or えand end
in る must be exceptions.

　

yingguoguy -

Quote:

Its not a stretch, that's the rule.

The rules I was taught:

1) Any group 1 verb ends with -u,-ku,-gu,-su,-tsu,-nu,-mu,-bu, and -ru.
2) Any group 2 verb ends with -iru, -eru
3) The group 3 verbs are kuru and suru and have irregular conjugations.

-ru verbs with a preceeding i or e are not exceptional in the sense that they don't break any of
the above rules. Given any verb ending in -iru or -eru it is impossible to infer from the rules
wether it is in group 1 or group 2.

The only verb generally considered to be exceptional is iku, as it's past form is itta, not iita
as you would expect from the rules given for group 1 verbs.

Quote:

There are no group-II verbs that come after any other vowel sound other than い or え, none. So,
by default, all group-I verbs that follow い or えand end in る must be exceptions.

This is a logical fallacy. Contrast with:

There are no Japanese people with anything other than natually black hair, none.
(okay maybe a dubious statement, but play along for the moment )
So, by default, all Americans with black hair must be exceptions.

nipponman -

Quote:

Originally Posted by yingguoguy

The only verb generally considered to be exceptional is iku, as it's past form is itta, not iita
as you would expect from the rules given for group 1 verbs.

This is not true, だ is considered the most exceptional verb, as it doesn't end with a う
sound.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yingguoguy

This is a logical fallacy.

You're missing the point. I'm not calling group-I verbs that end in -る and follow an い or anえ
exceptions because they violate group-I rules, I call them exceptions to the rule that group-II
verbs only end in that way. Hopefully you agree that you can never find a group-II verb that
doesn't end in -いる or -える, that sounds like a rule to me.but so that people don't go and
take every verb that ends in いる or -える to be group-II, we present exceptions to this rule.
Your arguing from the point that these aren't exceptions to the group-I rules, and your right.
Only problem is, nobody is talking about that (that didn't ask the question at least). These are
exceptions to the group-II rules.

yingguoguy -

Quote:

This is not true, だ is considered the most exceptional verb, as it doesn't end with a うsound.

But da isn't generally considered to be a verb but the copula. It shows the tense and politeness
level of sentences when these are not indicated by the verb or (for tense only) the i-adjective.
Although it's usually translated into English at 'to be', it's not actually a verb and the English
rule that all sentences must have a verb isn't true in Japanese.

Quote:

Hopefully you agree that you can never find a group-II verb that doesn't end in -いる or
-える, that sounds like a rule to me.

Agreed, see my rule 2 above.

Quote:

but so that people don't go and take every verb that ends in いる or -える to be group-II, we
present exceptions to this rule.

Your right that learners definately need their attention drawn to the fact that not everything
that ends in -i/eru is a group 2 verb, and a text should provide examples of group 1 -i/eru
endings to drive this point home. I also accept, which I missed originally, that tanhql refered to
exceptions to the rules in his first post, and people were just following his usage.

My point was that it's bad practice to think of group 1 -i/eru verbs as being exceptional in the
sense of assuming that any -i/eru verb is in group 2 unless it appears on a list of a exceptions
that you've specially memorized, as it'll probably end up being quite a long list, and whenever
you hit a verb, you'll waste time trying to remember if it's on the list or not.

It's also, I think, a bad idea to memorize in the form (帰る is group 1),(食べる is group 2)
but rather (帰る、帰った,帰ります),(食べる,食べた,食べます), partly for the
same reasons it's bad to try and remember Chinese tones by their numbers, but mainly because it
speeds up most conjugating most forms. You shouldn't have to think about groups in conversation.

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RedMoon -

Have you thought about porting it to a "native" windows application? That way you could install a
system-wide keyboard hook which means it would be compatible with all windows programs. In other
words, keystrokes are first sent to your application, you do all your processing there, then send
the modified result (the Cantonese character) to the target window.

I've tried your tool out, and it's quite good (even though I know next-to-nothing). Great job -
keep it up!

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xiaojiang216 -

I used this software frequently not too long ago. But now that I have started using it again, I
cannot get certain characters to display. (For example: o的 appears as a big box, as well as
o係, etc.)

Is there something that I'm being stupid about?

uccoffee -

who to type these words?
去
衫
村

the code site is down at the moment

wannabeafreak -

The best Cantonese IME is http://www.cantonese.org.cn/Soft/200...513104337.html

Traditional, Jyutping, and has all the special Canto Characters. However, need to set your locale
to PRC.

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I see your point, and sometimes it can be a...

I see your point, and sometimes it can be a little confusing.

However, it's a lot more confusing to have a thread with the title 'Characters and Phonetic
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I've moved the recent posts on Chinese Character...

I've moved the recent posts on Chinese Character Input Methods to a new topic in the Textbooks and
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Like I said, you might occassionally have...

Like I said, you might occassionally have problems with words in isolation - like when a madman
comes up to you on the street and says 'hey, d'you know what a blenny is?'

Roddy

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And . . .(forgot this) I've been told that it's...

And . . .(forgot this)

I've been told that it's impossible to create an adequate phonetic system for Chinese, as there
are so few phonemes you have too many homonyns.

Sounds like rubbish to me. A...

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Yeah, I agree that once you've learnt the...

Yeah, I agree that once you've learnt the characters Chinese isn't so difficult - and like the
ugly example, Chinese vocabulary can be beautifully logical.

It's learning the characters in the first...

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This means readers of phonetic scripts don't...

This means readers of phonetic scripts don't immediately get the meaning in their head, which is
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I'd also like...

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Thanks for starting the thread wix, I hadn't had...

Thanks for starting the thread wix, I hadn't had time to do it myself last night.

Sorry, but they don't. Nobody who hadn't studied Chinese (or any other simliar language could look
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YEAH!! THANKS GUYS!!!

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is the stuff at the bottom the "豆萁“? the bean stalks?

So, Cao Zhi = beans cooking in pot
and Cao Pi = bean stalks fueling the fire?

Thanks for the picture. It really helps me visualize.

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What does "burning the stem" have to do with "cooking the bean"? Does burning the stem provide the
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thanks!

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sorry, could you please explain: "横溢"? I can't find it in any dictionaries.

Also, is "直" the 量詞 of "心"? ("一直心怀忌恨")

Thanks for the excellent explanation!

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I like/agree with this part the most, good post...

I like/agree with this part the most, good post Jose.

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Basically, SC are way too simple. You might as...

Basically, SC are way too simple. You might as well switch to pinyin if your gonna butcher the
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完全同意。汉字拼音化是一种很愚蠢的想法。
之所以字母类语言会流行，比如英语，之所以有人会觉得...

完全同意。

汉字拼音化是一种很愚蠢的想法。

之所以字母类语言会流行，比如英语，
之所以有人会觉得英语类的语言比较好，比较容易学，
不是因为英语之类的语言有多好，而是代表了一种以英美为代表的强势文化�
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Forum: Reading and Writing 26th May 2004, 09:40 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By Taibei

I find myself in rare disagreement with ala on...

I find myself in rare disagreement with ala on this -- though perhaps it is just in his/her choice
of wording rather than intended meaning. Chinese characters no more "transcend sound" than...

Forum: Reading and Writing 26th May 2004, 09:34 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By Taibei

Again, let's not set up straw men. This isn't...

Again, let's not set up straw men. This isn't about having Pinyin be the writing system instead of
Hanzi.

I don't understand. Do you think that Mandarin speakers "compromise" when they have...

Forum: Reading and Writing 22nd May 2004, 01:13 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By Taibei

That's not how I meant it at all. I apologize if...

That's not how I meant it at all. I apologize if I gave the wrong impression.

Not everyone who buys, say, an extremely expensive but well-marketed brand of perfume is a snob --
far from it. But the...

Forum: Reading and Writing 22nd May 2004, 12:47 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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I have an excellent article on the Dungans on my...

I have an excellent article on the Dungans on my site: Implications of the Soviet Dungan Script
for Chinese Language Reform (http://www.pinyin.info/readings/texts/dungan.html), by Victor Mair.
This...

Forum: Reading and Writing 19th May 2004, 11:28 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By Taibei

I said it before, and I'll say it again: Occam's...

I said it before, and I'll say it again: Occam's razor. The burden of proof is on those who would
say, despite absence of real evidence, that Chinese characters are superior to alphabetic
systems...

Forum: Reading and Writing 19th May 2004, 11:00 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By Taibei

:roll: It's not necessary to read any minds....

:roll: It's not necessary to read any minds. Plenty of people have made the same observation.
There is absolutely nothing unusual or even really controversial in my statement. Or is it that
you just...

Forum: Reading and Writing 19th May 2004, 10:45 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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This is incorrect. For the real story, read...

This is incorrect.

For the real story, read Literacy and Script Reform in Occupation Japan: Reading Between the Lines
(http://pinyin.info/readings/japanese_literacy.html), by J. Marshall Unger....

Forum: Reading and Writing 18th May 2004, 11:59 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By Taibei

There's really too much here for me to respond to...

There's really too much here for me to respond to adequately. Actually, most of the points I would
make have already been made by dmoser, ala, and others in this thread. It's just that they don't...

Forum: Reading and Writing 14th May 2004, 05:13 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By Taibei

This is often asserted -- without any proof....

This is often asserted -- without any proof. Moreover, if we're talking about time here, how much
more time does it take to become literate in Chinese characters than in pinyin? In this, we're...

Forum: Reading and Writing 12th May 2004, 06:36 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By Taibei

Or just use pinyin and skip the characters....

Or just use pinyin and skip the characters.

It's worth noting that most people already write Mandarin in pinyin -- they're just using this as
an intermediate step in having a computer translate...

Forum: Reading and Writing 5th May 2004, 03:02 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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A lot of people tend to get confused about the...

A lot of people tend to get confused about the nature of the question, thinking that the
troublesome spellings of English somehow equate to what it's like to write Mandarin in
romanization. (These...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 1st March 2006, 09:39 PM

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Can someone please check my translations?

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Posted By semantic nuance

4. 每位駕駛都得遵守交通规则，要不然路上的汽车都会动彈不得。 8.
每个人都想趕快上公車,...

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每位駕駛都得遵守交通规则，要不然路上的汽车都会动彈不得。

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每个人都想趕快上公車, 但是誰也不肯讓誰。结果，没有人能上车,
車子也動不了.

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馬克跟瑪麗道歉,因为他已經待在上海两个多星期了才给她写信。

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2008-12-02T12:37:00.001-08:00

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Forum: Reading and Writing 23rd August 2005, 05:45 AM

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The best TECHNIQUE for learning characters ?

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Posted By Long Zhiren

After learning the first couple thousand, the...

After learning the first couple thousand, the next couple thousand characters aren't so commonly
used. My present favorite learning technique is to surf the web.
like: http://cn.yahoo.com/ where I...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 27th April 2007, 11:13 PM

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"Revered" translation english-chinese

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Posted By Lu

Re: "Revered" translation english-chinese

尊敬: verb/noun, meaning respect or to respect.

被敬畏:
被 makes something passive. 敬畏 is to revere, 被敬畏 is to be revered (by). You can
translate 'revered' as 被敬畏的(人). But maybe a native speaker can come...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 15th September 2007, 04:29 PM

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Absolute beginner

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Posted By Lu

Re: Absolute beginner

Johnnycab, I understand your disappointment, seems even SOAS has bad teachers and you had the bad
luck to get them. At the same time, with two hours a week, in a non-Chinese environment no less,
I...

Forum: Reading and Writing 9th August 2007, 06:32 PM

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Absolute beginner

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Re: Absolute beginner

SOAS, oh wow, I'm jealous now... :-) Make sure to check out their library, I heard it's really
great.

Forum: Reading and Writing 9th August 2007, 05:54 PM

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Absolute beginner

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Posted By Lu

Re: Absolute beginner

I'm assuming you're going to take this degree in a university not in China. Does the university
offer the classes of your program at your level, ie complete beginner? If so, don't worry, just
make...

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Chinese Mandarin - Chinese Lesson

2008-11-29T12:18:00.001-08:00

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Forum: Reading and Writing 25th September 2007, 07:01 PM

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好像 hao3 xiang4 or 好象 ?

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好像 hao3 xiang4 or 好象 ?

I have seen both 好像 hao3 xiang4 and 好象 hao3 xiang4 used. They are different characters but
the same pronunciation and apparently the same meaning (as if, seem, be like) according to the...

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2008-11-28T12:32:00.001-08:00

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Forum: Reading and Writing 24th July 2007, 10:07 AM

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Which books do Chinese use to learn Classical Chinese?

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Posted By Pravit

Re: Which books do Chinese use to learn Classical Chinese?

Thanks for the reply, gato!

Lucky me, that's the ancient Chinese dictionary I just happened to decide on after poring over the
selection at the bookstore for such a long time! There was another one...

Forum: Reading and Writing 22nd July 2007, 10:41 PM

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Which books do Chinese use to learn Classical Chinese?

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Which books do Chinese use to learn Classical Chinese?

I was just at the 西安图书大厦 today looking for Classical Chinese textbooks, specifically,
the kind that has some simple texts in ancient language with annotation and a modern translation.
But I could...

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Chinese Pinyin - Chinese Lesson

2008-11-27T12:26:00.001-08:00

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Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd April 2008, 09:02 PM

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Business license

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Posted By gato

Re: Business license

Interesting that they've stopped taking Paypal.

Remember this thread?
http://www. /showthread.php?t=17545
Does this mean PayPal discriminates against Chinese people?

Forum: Reading and Writing 17th April 2007, 01:19 AM

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Business license

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Posted By gato

Re: Image text translation

Their business license is fake.
http://www.btinternet.com/~t0mm/image1.jpg

- It says it's a Beijing company but the address is that of a district (Xiacheng) in Hangzhou.

- The government seal is...

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2008-11-26T12:29:00.001-08:00

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Forum: Reading and Writing 24th March 2008, 05:04 PM

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The Revival of Traditional Characters is Coming?

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Posted By Lu

Re: The Revival of Traditional Characters is Coming?

Taipei at least uses pinyin on official signs rather consistently, and now that Ma is to be
president perhaps he will expand this policy (one can hope...). Writing from left to right is
widely used,...

Forum: Reading and Writing 15th March 2008, 02:40 PM

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The Revival of Traditional Characters is Coming?

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Posted By Lu

Re: The Revival of Traditional Characters is Coming?

That would be nice. Make people choose for themselves. The downside is that this would mean
educating children in not one but two difficult scripts. But it would be nice if every publisher
and paper...

Forum: Reading and Writing 13th March 2008, 04:18 PM

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The Revival of Traditional Characters is Coming?

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Posted By Lu

Re: The Revival of Traditional Characters is Coming?

Because until recently, all texts were writting mostly in traditional characters, with the odd
simplified one. If you only ever learn simplified, you're going to have trouble reading very old
books.

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Forum: Reading and Writing 30th March 2008, 07:33 PM

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How to ask the question " 布什是第几任总统 ”in English?

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Posted By Zach Hide

Re: How to ask the question " 布什是第几任总统 ”in English?

"What number president is Bush?"

Is this the sentence you wanted?
This is how I would ask the question in English.

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Forum: Reading and Writing 17th February 2008, 08:10 AM

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World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

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Posted By flameproof

Re: World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

renzhe, I can follow your point 100% and definitely agree on the "homonyms" issue. However, I
prefer to see Mandarin as "simple". If you start a language and you see it as "difficult" it will
give...

Forum: Reading and Writing 16th February 2008, 01:10 PM

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World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

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Posted By flameproof

Re: World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

Mandarin is one of the easiest language with a very difficult writing system.

I would say anything from a few hours up to 2 days. It's an alphabet with 50 or so letters. Sure
you won't understand...

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Forum: ZDT Flashcards Forum 21st August 2007, 03:09 AM

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ZDT: Most annoying things about the ZDT

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Posted By TapioT

Re: ZDT: Most annoying things about the ZDT

Hi,

For me the most annoying thing is the scoring algorithm - if I understood it correctly, that is. I
like to dump any new words that I see to ZDT and then start learning them whenever I have time....

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Forum: ZDT Flashcards Forum 14th January 2008, 12:46 PM

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Sticky: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

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Posted By Luobot

Re: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

I found an interesting feature by accident: I did a dictionary search for "xang4" and ZDT returned
the results for "ang4". Likewise, "xang1" returned results for "ang1". This is with the search...

Forum: ZDT Flashcards Forum 13th November 2007, 01:29 PM

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Sticky: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

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Re: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

After clicking Yes ...

Forum: ZDT Flashcards Forum 13th November 2007, 01:27 PM

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Sticky: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

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Posted By Luobot

Re: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

Hi Chris,

I tried doing as you suggested, and it seemed ok until I tried accessing help > help contents,
when I received an error message referring to line 11. I'll see if I can upload screenshots...

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Sticky: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

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Re: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

Hi Chris,

Sorry if I’m asking questions that are probably answered somewhere else, but I couldn’t find
it on a search of “ZDT install” or “ZDT upgrade.”

My questions are:

- Is it ok to install...

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Posted By LaoZhang

Re: Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

Wow, this is really cool. Thanks geek_frappa for all the work you've done and continue to do for
the world :clap

And not that you asked for any (technical) feedback...just FYI
It works great on my...

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 17th April 2005, 02:37 PM

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Why Do You Learn Chinese?(ple help me with the survey)

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1) I'm a History major, planning to go to...

1) I'm a History major, planning to go to graduate school and specializing in Chinese history. For
that, I need to be able to read the written language proficiently.

Yeah...I systematically fail...

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dashan 大山, Igor(from taiwan) and any others who have disgustingly good chinese

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I couldn't agree more. :lol: When I find...

I couldn't agree more. :lol: When I find someone that has better Chinese than I do, I usually ask
about their studying methods so that I can learn something and improve. I don't get jealous,...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 28th May 2005, 07:48 AM

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dashan 大山, Igor(from taiwan) and any others who have disgustingly good chinese

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I have never met a laowai with Chinese as good as...

I have never met a laowai with Chinese as good as Dashan's. The thing is, like Beijing Slacker
pointed out, Dashan has flawless pronunciation, even having a Beijing accent. I have met some
other...

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Pinyin used in Taiwan?

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About seven years ago, when I was in taiwan,...

About seven years ago, when I was in taiwan, every time I showed people (other than my teachers)
something written in Pinyin or Wade-giles, they said it was "English"

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most embarrassing moment while learning Chinese

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reply to Wix subject! hes not alone!

i had a similar experience.................

well after hearing this, you will feel better and less embarassed! well one day me and my cusin
was havin lunch at the canteen, we weren't sure if the...

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Why do caucasians love English?

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Posted By SilverTab

Re: Why do caucasians love English?

Hey there dalaowai! French-Canadian here too ;)

To get back to the original topic:

I think it could just be a matter of context, but look at it this way...I have yet to visit China
(going later...

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Practicing Chinese with Chinese is impossible!!!

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i think he's more serious in looking for a wife...

i think he's more serious in looking for a wife :wink:

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Practicing Chinese with Chinese is impossible!!!

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profiling? :roll: did you get beat up for not...

profiling? :roll: did you get beat up for not speaking chinese? or were you stopped randomly by
the police because you looked white? frankly it's selfish and immature to toss the word "racist"...

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Steve Kaufmann - How good is he?

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Posted By bomaci

Having spoken to Mr Kaufmann myself I would say...

Having spoken to Mr Kaufmann myself I would say that his accent is good but he makes some tone
mistakes. I have also let my native speaking wife listen to him and she says that while his accent
is...

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 4th February 2006, 12:55 PM

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which chinese dialect(s) do you like most?

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Hehe. It seems that Shanghainese has two main...

Hehe. It seems that Shanghainese has two main purposes: arguing over things (usually prices) and
cracking jokes. In both cases, the speed of conversation seems amazing (to someone who doesn't...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 23rd January 2006, 08:20 AM

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which chinese dialect(s) do you like most?

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I agree that many Chinese aesthetic preferences...

I agree that many Chinese aesthetic preferences have ancient origins. But what about, say, check
bones? If you look at the women in the Tang, they were more plump and also seemed to have
瓜子脸’s,...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 22nd January 2006, 09:26 PM

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which chinese dialect(s) do you like most?

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Posted By wushijiao

From a language geek point of view, I also envy...

From a language geek point of view, I also envy Singaporeans and Malaysians. I knew a Malaysian
woman who spoke perfect English, Mandarin, Cantonese, and Malay. All of this mainly because of
her...

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Anyone Taken the HSK Advanced

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Nice link. I haven't looked at the mock exams...

Nice link. I haven't looked at the mock exams recently, but if memory serves, some of the fill in
the blank parts of the advanced exam are different from the elem-int. exam. In the elem-int.
exam,...

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Anyone Taken the HSK Advanced

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I've never taken the Advanced test. I've only...

I've never taken the Advanced test. I've only known one person who has. He was Korean and he got
an overall band of 10. His written Chinese was pretty good, but his spoken Chinese was not so...

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Have started learning mandarin could need some tips!

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Re: Have started learning mandarin could need some tips!

I think it's very useful if you already have some basic Chinese when you arrive in China. So it's
a good plan to study some already if you're planning to move there in a year. I also agree that
it's...

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Book of the Month Club

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hehe

gato, i am sorry but i havent read any works written by 周梅森. To tell you the truth, i dont
have a feeling for some contemporary novelists who focus on the plot rather than the fitnesse of
writing....

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Book of the Month Club

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hehe

Never been in a western study group before. Just curious what is like?

Anyway, I still recommend the text books for chinese children available in PEP whose link has been
posted in the other post and...

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Yi Zhongtian's book on Chinese culture

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Re: Yi Zhongtian's book on Chinese culture

Picked this up over the weekend as I was in a bookshop, didn't really know what to buy, and
recognized it as having been mentioned on here so I figured even if I hated it I could come on
here and say...

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Suggestions for BOTM April

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Re: Suggestions for BOTM April

I reckon we've got time for a quick one before May - anyone fancy 阿Ｑ正传? Easy to find in
Chinese (http://www.yifan.net/yihe/novels/luxun/aq.html) and English...

Forum: Book of the Month 8th April 2008, 01:43 PM

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Suggestions for BOTM April

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Re: Suggestions for BOTM April

Yay, people are reading it!

Does anyone want to suggest another short story for those who don't like tales about superheroes
growing up in communes?

Forum: Book of the Month 6th April 2008, 09:24 PM

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Suggestions for BOTM April

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Re: Suggestions for BOTM April

Don't all rush at once :twisted:

Forum: Book of the Month 3rd April 2008, 10:09 AM

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Suggestions for BOTM April

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Right, well I'll start the ball rolling by recommending one I've already read, which was mentioned
in the Chinese Science Fiction (http://www. /showthread.php?t=2774) topic,
中国式青春....

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Suggestions for BOTM April

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Re: Suggestions for BOTM April

Ok, how about this. It's looking like we're not coming up with a book for April, and some of us
are still working through March's book. So how about we identify three or four short stories, aim
to...

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Suggestions for BOTM April

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Re: Suggestions for BOTM April

That's the one I was thinking of - know very little about it to be honest, but it's the one that
stands out as most recognizable when I'm looking at a list of his works. However if I'm doing my
maths...

Forum: Book of the Month 20th March 2008, 10:21 PM

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Suggestions for BOTM April

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Re: Suggestions for BOTM April

Actually I was just sniffing around Jin Yong's Wikipedia page to see where might be good to start.
:mrgreen:

Description of Skylee's recommendation culled from...

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Suggestions for BOTM April

Let's get a head start . . .

Personally I'm inclining towards something with pace and action. Something thrilling, if not
actually a thriller. Something with good guys and bad guys, and you know...

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sentence problem

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Re: sentence problem

Sorry to bother you again

so does it mean that
...also the subcontracts of the design are divided in special fields such as prefabricated
components in concrete, kitchen thechnology etc. and if...

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sentence problem

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Re: sentence problem

Dear Monto,

I'm sorry but it still not clear:

国家体育场工程设计与什么结合什么?
The design of the project of the National Stadium besides the usual special fields such as (....),
because of its peculiarity, it...

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sentence problem

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sentence problem

Dear friends,

trying to translate this LONG sentence...

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Search: (simple) reading for pleasure suggestions

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Re: Search: (simple) reading for pleasure suggestions

The sooner you use the new name the faster the old entries will disappear :wink:

I wouldn't worry about Google kicking you out over having too many domain names - they're much
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Search: (simple) reading for pleasure suggestions

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Re: Search: (simple) reading for pleasure suggestions

There will be some puns, but still plenty you should be able to follow. What's "What would the
circus want with a frog?" in Chinese?

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Search: (simple) reading for pleasure suggestions

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Been said before on here a few times, but joke books are a good place to look. They're bite-sized
pieces of text, always simple narrative, and one in about a hundred are actually funny.

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What's Your Favourite Character?

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Re: What's Your Favourite Character?

just because it makes you feel like you're Zorro duh. :lol:

i'm a very conventional person, hence tend to like 囍.

喜 on the other hand is a quite horrible character: impossible to fit into a square...

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Shifting Between Sounds

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Shifting Between Sounds

Hi all,

A question for any native speakers or experienced learners out there...

I've been learning Mandarin for several years and feel like I have a pretty good command of
Mandarin pronunciation....

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 2nd May 2008, 11:06 PM

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Zao, instead of "zao an" or "zao shang hao", but ...

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Posted By adrianlondon

Re: Zao, instead of "zao an" or "zao shang hao", but ...

I sometimes use those, and they don't sound weird. However, for informal greetings, "morning, hi,
hi" is more often used (by me anyway) than "morning, afternoon, evening".

Forum: Speaking and Listening 21st April 2008, 06:57 AM

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Zao, instead of "zao an" or "zao shang hao", but ...

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Re: Zao, instead of "zao an" or "zao shang hao", but ...

That's a pretty big assumption.

hi. uh. yeah. no. bye.

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Zao, instead of "zao an" or "zao shang hao", but ...

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Re: Zao, instead of "zao an" or "zao shang hao", but ...

It would make sense, as you can do this in English, but I've never heard it done (apart from, as
you already know, "zao an" to "zao").

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Is it okay to read along while listening?

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Re: Is it okay to read along while listening?

If there's a place with plenty of chinese people, go and hang out there. And eavesdrop.

For some reason, it's easier to listen and understand people in real life. I find it much easier
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Translating names - Urgent!

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Re: Translating names - Urgent!

I also suspect that this is not the place to ask such things. If you need it for anything
important (as suggested by the 'urgent'), you're best off asking some official source (some
Chinese Olympic...

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Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 23rd April 2008, 10:18 PM

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Random new word of the day

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钛 Titanium

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 19th March 2008, 04:03 PM

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麦粉- Whey protein powder

My friend said this word that after his workout he would drink some and would be fine and I was
thinking something wheat powder. Then I saw the container and nearly laughed...

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 28th February 2008, 08:32 PM

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囫囵 meaning whole hú lún

So 囫囵吞下 means to swallow it whole

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 22nd February 2008, 02:42 PM

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I can help! :wink: 佃户

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I had seriously considered putting an explanation on that one and it looks like I needed too...
(no it came from a TV show where the guy just started popping the medicine in hopes of getting
better...

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洗胃: get your stomach pumped

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 12th January 2008, 08:55 PM

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One from who knows how long ago (when my dresser door broke), kept forgetting to post it buts its
really useful (that is if you ever have to repair something):
合叶- Hinge

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 4th December 2007, 08:40 PM

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作茧自缚 You make your own cocoon....basically you if you dig a pit you will fall into it. You
will reap the consequences of your own actions...

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That would be called a ballast...

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 30th November 2007, 09:12 PM

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skylee as always to the rescue

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(别)调味口 (what he wrote)(suspicion that it should be 胃口)

This is my own translation of how I understood it as my friend just said it too me (texted rather)
but it should me, Don't get me excited! I...

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Well actually got that furniture shopping today- I am still reading but still behind. Been doing
house searching....

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 20th November 2007, 05:54 PM

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This doesn't seem like a big one but it was new to me....

茶几 chájī Tea table (or what I would call a coffee table- I guess they are in essence the
same thing...)

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 18th November 2007, 04:27 PM

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Got two:

First was one that I learned but have never used and ran across it again today: 酌量 zhóuliàng
to consider or deliberate

Second is more of a group of words that I found very interesting and...

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 2nd November 2007, 01:39 PM

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Does that mean that it is cold season???

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 29th October 2007, 10:39 PM

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I stand corrected (and I am going beat my dictionary to a bloody pulp....)

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 29th October 2007, 09:55 PM

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Uh oh tone discrepancy...should be first tone...

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 29th October 2007, 06:29 AM

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燔 to burn (sacrifices)
fán

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 3rd October 2007, 06:19 PM

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If anybody is unclear on the meaning please do not bug me as I sip my jack right now....

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 28th September 2007, 01:12 PM

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You know how many of those words I don't even know in English??? Maybe I will get new words in a
few different languages today then (now where did I put my English-English dictionary??)

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 21st September 2007, 05:36 PM

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Random new word of the day

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It should be 哗. Frequently used to describe the sound of water but not too sure about what the
last parts character is...

Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 20th September 2007, 08:24 PM

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Random new word of the day

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That is hilarious. That is a word in my lesson for tomorrow. I guess maybe I should go learn what
it actually means in english...(joking)

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在了

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Re: 在了

Only if one wants to be forgiven.

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在了

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Re #22, I would use 丢了在, as I said in my #7.

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在了

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Weird. For the examples quoted in #4-#6 I would put 了 before 在 or at the end of the sentence.
But then maybe it is just me.

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在了

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I guess it appears as 不在了 (does not exist any more) instead of 在了, right? Like -

>我爸爸不在了。

>誒，那本書剛剛還在桌子上，現在怎麽不在了?

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Chinese -- mathematical friendlier than English

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lee's comment makes sense

9x9 song or 九九歌 is something unique in terms of making something easier to memorise. to this
day i still use this song to calculate.

i understand if i was brought up in a english speaking country i...

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Learning strategies for Chinese characters

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flash cards, make your own with a chinese input...

flash cards, make your own with a chinese input system in windows or on the mac. Learn 5-6 new
flash cards every day. Have memorizing sessions in the morning and in the evening. There is
definitely...

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Ugly in places

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biáng from biángbiáng面 (my favorite kind of...

biáng from biángbiáng面 (my favorite kind of noodles!) is really kind of a joke. I know a
noodle restaurant that has it painted in calligraphy on the wall, but most people can't write it
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How many characters is enough?

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As far as I'm aware, you usually take one subject at a time at a Swedish university.

At an American university, you usually take five different courses simultaneously. Thus, you are
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Forum: Reading and Writing 16th March 2008, 04:07 PM

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Language of Xian

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I took a look at the website. It says it's about making friends, but it is actually clearly about
men meeting women from less-rich countries (Russia, Belarus, China). The women are, according to...

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Language of Xian

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Does the service you are using have a website? Could you post the address here so we can have a
look what it is?

In any case, if I were you I would stop spending money on this. If you have good...

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Language of Xian

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She says: Wo zhi zhidao Zhongguoren, meaning: I only know Chinese [people].
You read: I only know Chinese. Language or people, you don't know.
The machine translates: Wo zhi dongde Hanyu, meaning: I...

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Language of Xian

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Trying to recap, as it seems to me confusion is only growing...

Many scripts (=written forms of language) know different styles. 'Calligraphy' generally just
means 'writing in a beautiful fashion'....

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Language of Xian

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Jovey, studying with a dictionary and a translation machine is in all likelyhood not going to
teach you Chinese. I strongly suggest you get yourself a textbook, and if at all possible also a
teacher....

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Language of Xian

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Software for typing Chinese: many versions are available. A common way of typing Chinese is when
you type the pinyin (ie ni hao), and the computer converts that into Chinese characters (ie
你好). This...

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Language of Xian

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Chinese is not quite so simple that you can just replace every word in English with an equivalent
in Chinese and that's it.
'Dear' in English can be used to start pretty much every letter; not so in...

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Teachers who teach Traditional Characters?!! Why?

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Thank you, Jose, for disagreeing with my ideas...

Thank you, Jose, for disagreeing with my ideas without insulting me personally. After thinking
about all of this for quite a while, I think that you are right in that literacy probably wouldn't
have...

Forum: Reading and Writing 16th July 2004, 10:45 AM

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Teachers who teach Traditional Characters?!! Why?

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I think traditional characters are more beautiful...

I think traditional characters are more beautiful and are worth knowing. But I think it's hard to
deny the time saving value of simplified. If you have ever seen a rural school in China, and
over...

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Teachers who teach Traditional Characters?!! Why?

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Well, almost everyday you can see signs in the...

Well, almost everyday you can see signs in the mainland that will have, say, 15 characters most
will be in simplified, but a few will be in traditional. Why wouldn't the whole sign be in
either...

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Teachers who teach Traditional Characters?!! Why?

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Traditional is also used in most of the pirated...

Traditional is also used in most of the pirated DVDs in the mainland, which is to say all the
DVDs. It's also used a lot on signs to demonstrate class, history, and snobishness. So I think
it's...

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Traditional & Simplified Characters

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This is a good point. One could also argue...

This is a good point.

One could also argue that the whole TC/ SC debate isn't all that important. Most people serious
learners of Chinese can recognize both when reading a text, say, movie...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 24th January 2004, 05:40 PM

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Chinese Idiom Rally

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Topic Locked, continues here...

Topic Locked, continues here (http://www. /viewtopic.php?t=867).

Roddy

Forum: Reading and Writing 1st January 2004, 11:30 PM

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Chinese Idiom Rally

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Posted By roddy

I don't care if there are over 3000 results...

I don't care if there are over 3000 results
(http://www.google.com/search?lr=lang_zh-CN&cr=&q=%E5%90%A7%E5%90%A7%E5%90%A7%E5%90%A7&h
l=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) for 吧吧吧吧 on Google,...

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Chinese Idiom Rally

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算了吧 (And anyone who can start an idiom with 吧 is...

算了吧

(And anyone who can start an idiom with 吧 is either cheating or a genius)

Roddy

Forum: Reading and Writing 26th December 2003, 12:10 AM

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Chinese Idiom Rally

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And after struggling through the crowds, you'll...

And after struggling through the crowds, you'll need a decent meal - fortunately, the restaurant
round the corner from me has a special offer - 海鲜八折 - haixian ba zhe - 20% off seafood.

Roddy
(ok,...

Forum: Reading and Writing 23rd December 2003, 11:03 PM

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So you did. Oops. And so should I. I know I...

So you did. Oops. And so should I. I know I should start with 變, but I couldn't, so I decided to
班门弄斧 - (banmen nong fu) play around with your ax in front of the door of the master
carpenter Ban - or...

Forum: Reading and Writing 23rd December 2003, 10:53 PM

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Chinese Idiom Rally

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Great work, skylee and quest, and great idea from...

Great work, skylee and quest, and great idea from ax. Your mission now is to edit all your posts
to include pinyin and an explanation.

I would love to join in, but it would be a case of 班门弄斧 I fear...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 22nd January 2006, 05:30 AM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Okay, I have read the entire thread. A persitant...

Okay, I have read the entire thread.

A persitant (and the most significant imo) argument against Chinese using a phonetic script is
it's lack of practicality; that it is difficult to read. Too many...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 1st September 2003, 10:19 AM

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How difficult is learning Chinese characters?

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Quest, I more or less agree with what you are...

Quest, I more or less agree with what you are saying with regards to Chinese children learning the
language.

Another point is that even after all the effort invested in learning Chinese characters...

Forum: Reading and Writing 1st September 2003, 07:45 AM

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How difficult is learning Chinese characters?

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Quest, it is interesting to hear about your...

Quest, it is interesting to hear about your experience of learning Chinese characters when you
were young. A very important thing to remember in this discussion is that the process of a child...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 19th August 2005, 02:47 PM

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Easy chinese texts on the internet ?

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http://chinese.rutgers.edu/content_c.htm I think...

http://chinese.rutgers.edu/content_c.htm

I think that site is really good. You have the option of either seeing the text in pinyin,
simplified, traditional or English. Also, you can listen to the...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 18th August 2005, 05:43 PM

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The best TECHNIQUE for learning characters ?

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William McNaughton's "Reading & Writing...

William McNaughton's "Reading & Writing Chinese"
(http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=1-0804832064-6)

This is a great book. It explains the components/radicals of characters, and there are...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 26th April 2007, 07:32 PM

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"Revered" translation english-chinese

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Re: "Revered" translation english-chinese

...or is this one correct?

尊敬

Thanks

Forum: Reading and Writing 26th April 2007, 07:28 PM

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"Revered" translation english-chinese

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Posted By Lucas

Re: "Revered" translation english-chinese

Ok, so far I have found this:

被敬畏

Is anyone able to confirm to me that it has the meaning of "revered", as described in the previous
post?

Thanks!

Forum: Reading and Writing 25th April 2007, 05:25 PM

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"Revered" translation english-chinese

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"Revered" translation english-chinese

I'm wondering if somebody could help me please with a translation to mandarin of the word
"revered"?

Apparently the characters below have the meaning of "revere":

敬畏 "jing wei"

But I would...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 25th September 2007, 12:21 PM

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Try to read one of the four "classics" or something easier, suggestions please.

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Re: Try to read one of the four "classics" or something easier, suggestions please.

Try 巴金's 《憩园》 Qiyuan

the title's the hardest thing...should be set text for 2nd language learners :D

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Forum: Reading and Writing 26th September 2007, 12:14 AM

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好像 hao3 xiang4 or 好象 ?

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Re: 好像 hao3 xiang4 or 好象 ?

The books I used to self-study (Pactical Chinese Reader, published in the 70s) use 象 but when I
got to BNU last year I got corrected to 像. I mentioned why I'd written it "wrong" and was told
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Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd October 2007, 11:21 AM

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Which books do Chinese use to learn Classical Chinese?

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Posted By wangleen

Re: Which books do Chinese use to learn Classical Chinese?

Thank you for your appraisal! Do you think it is necessary to have pingying for the words?:)

Forum: Reading and Writing 30th September 2007, 03:47 PM

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Which books do Chinese use to learn Classical Chinese?

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Re: Which books do Chinese use to learn Classical Chinese?

Have you found the book轻松学习文言文?It can be bought on www.dangdang.com
Actually, it was written by my father:)
And recently, he has published another book which you might find
useful:中国高中生必读文言文，...

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Business license

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Re: Business license

HI, everyone i got to other people who wants to make deal but one give me the licence business
with the website, the other just give the website but i forgot to ask the license busines, what
i'm...

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Business license

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Re: Business license

Thank you everyone for your help, now i'm ready to put that men in his place :tong :twisted:

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Business license

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Business license

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How to ask the question " 布什是第几任总统 ”in English?

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Re: How to ask the question " 布什是第几任总统 ”in English?

"What number president is Bush?"

Is this the sentence you wanted?
This is how I would ask the question in English.

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